Posts by FatFreek 2005

in the long winter nights you need some good tv shows to watch while you wait for the eternity between seasons of game of thrones.. we've watched marco polo (pretty good) and have just started watching orange is the new black which is not at all what i imagined (didn't know it was funny!).

house of cards is on the list too as we've heard good things about that.. anyone have any others that are worth seeing?.

FatFreek 2005

"Johnny Carson, king of late night" -- my wife and I watched it last night. I thought it would be a few hours of highlights of his shows over the years. Yes, it included some highlight moments but it was more than that. It was actually a video biography, very penetrating which included his downs as well as his ups. We'll watch that one again when we have friends over.

Sabrina, a 1954 movie starring Audrey Hepburn, Humphrey Bogart, and William Holden. Surprisingly, Hepburn was some 16 years old at the time. Bogart, though playing an excellent role as older brother to Holden's character, was visually too old for the part. He died three years later at age 57.

Nymphomaniac, a 1913 documentary-like movie. I couldn't get some of the scenes of this one out of my head for several days. Don't tell the elders on me as this was the most explicit set of visuals I've ever seen in my 74 years. It probes the experiences of one European woman beginning with her childhood years as she relates them to an intellectual stranger who rescues her from a back alley near his apartment. Don't watch it if looking at hundreds of penis' and vaginas are taboo in your book.

The first episode of Hitchcock is very good, the second is so-so, but I look forward to exploring the rest.

Touch, with Kiefer Sutherland is quick moving, a bit far-fetched but will probably watch more than the two episodes I've seen.

The Family. Robert DiNiro et al is well done. Lots of the stuff that may happen when a Wise Guy and family goes into the Witness Protection program in a foreign country (France).

The Dust Bowl. Excellent Burns documentary and I learned a lot how that happened in the 1930's. But it can be said in half the time.

Len

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"You're missing the tool to view private messages." -- Is that legit message from jwn?

by FatFreek 2005 in

i suspect it is valid but i really want confirmation before i click those 3 steps.

there's actually nothing on that screen that says it has anything to do with jwn -- therefore my caution.. len.

FatFreek 2005

I suspect it is valid but I really want confirmation before I click those 3 steps. There's actually nothing on that screen that says it has anything to do with JWN -- therefore my caution.

Len

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DirecTV -- why also Roku, Chromecast, etc.?

by FatFreek 2005 in

we already have directv as one of its earliest subscribers (1994).

we have always had their latest dvrs(where we can skip commercials, pause, slo mo, resume, etc), have their premier insurance for all our hardware, and have their basic entertainment package, including movies, sports, family and music channels -- some over 150 channels that include local channels.

no premium channels.. i hear folks talking how they love those set top boxes (sticks, dongles, etc) that don't cost an arm and a leg -- a one time charge -- and can forever stream movies and programs.

FatFreek 2005

Thanks, guys.

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DirecTV -- why also Roku, Chromecast, etc.?

by FatFreek 2005 in

we already have directv as one of its earliest subscribers (1994).

we have always had their latest dvrs(where we can skip commercials, pause, slo mo, resume, etc), have their premier insurance for all our hardware, and have their basic entertainment package, including movies, sports, family and music channels -- some over 150 channels that include local channels.

no premium channels.. i hear folks talking how they love those set top boxes (sticks, dongles, etc) that don't cost an arm and a leg -- a one time charge -- and can forever stream movies and programs.

FatFreek 2005

We already have DirecTV as one of its earliest subscribers (1994). We have always had their latest DVRs(where we can skip commercials, pause, slo mo, resume, etc), have their premier insurance for all our hardware, and have their basic entertainment package, including movies, sports, family and music channels -- some over 150 channels that include local channels. No premium channels.

I hear folks talking how they love those set top boxes (sticks, dongles, etc) that don't cost an arm and a leg -- a one time charge -- and can forever stream movies and programs. Yes, you need fast unlimited internet for those to work and we have that.

Can I save dollars by getting one of these pieces of hardware, then go with the cheapest DirecTV package at some $17 savings.

Len

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life after the wtbts

by Hortensia in

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you can't move forward to a new, more interesting, possibly much happier life, if you're still looking behind at the former life.. there is so much obsession on here about what the wtbts is doing, and discussing all the forms of injustice and bullshit in the wtbts, or how to bring down the wtbts.

yes, their doctrines are crazy and they are a cult and cruel to boot.

move on.

FatFreek 2005

Thirty-three years out of the B.S.? How about 37 years? Problem with me is that I still have two boys -- okay, men -- who remain. Plus several grandchildren whom I've never met, not taken fishing, swimming, golfing, or to the mall.

One never forgets the pain.

Len

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Gotta meet my quota !!!

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Illegal immigrants in the organization?

by silent in

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i had a thought today that might prove interesting.

i'm wondering if there are any illegal immigrants who are witnesses?

surely it would be a great position to be in as an illegal immigrant because you could play up your plight and prey on the sympathies of others within the congregation.

FatFreek 2005

Pistoff: Some feel, and I am one, that it is a churches job to shepherd and feed the flock, no matter if they are 'illegal' or not. It's a place of worship, not an enforcement zone!

Really? The problem with WT is that it has indeed set itself up as an enforcement zone -- kangaroo trials disguised as judicial comittee meetings to chastise its membership for smoking, fornication, breaking Caesar's laws (um ... except for illegal immigration), etc., etc.

The enforcement zone of the local congregation is mirrored throughout the world in congregations which probably number close to 40,000 -- that zone is alive and well.

With due respect, the Watchtower double-standard is a mirror of Paul's double standard. Recall he is the very one who wrote Romans 13 and the same one who gave counsel to that runaway slave.

Repeating that earlier WT quote: " Take note that while Onesimus was in Rome the apostle Paul did not hand him over to the Roman authorities for punishment as a fugitive slave and possibly a thief. We know from his writings that Paul believed that a Christian should obey the law of the land, but plainly he did not consider it the congregation’s duty to serve as an arm of the government in policing individuals’ lives. "

Is it possible the early Christian Congregation did not have an enforcement zone like the JWs do?

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Illegal immigrants in the organization?

by silent in

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friends

i had a thought today that might prove interesting.

i'm wondering if there are any illegal immigrants who are witnesses?

surely it would be a great position to be in as an illegal immigrant because you could play up your plight and prey on the sympathies of others within the congregation.

FatFreek 2005

"If this was tolerated, then wouldn't bank robbery, theft, forgery, and a whole entire list of other illegal behaviour be "okay" and "tolerated" as well?"

Very good point. Local cong elders are being put in the position of choosing, like at a buffet cafeteria, which of Caesars laws are valid enough to take some form of legal action. One of the WT judicial keys seems to be if a person is a practitioner of a certain behavior. We can therefore conclude:

1. If the perpetrator admits to being an illegal allien (remember: being one is not a one-and-done act -- it means one is practicing this behavior), then positions of congregation responsibility are not allowed. I know that in one congregation in Tennessee, elders will have nothing to do with turning that person in to the authorities. "We are not the police", they say.

2. If the perp admits to practicing other illegal behavior (see above) then disfellowshipping and other punitive measures are in order.

I see it as self serving for the WTS -- they want/need membership and turning these folks in would be contrary to their membership goals.

Len